In this episode of the VulnerABILITY Podcast, host Marisa Donnelly welcomes guest Dan Hill, the founder of Sensory Logic and author of Famous Faces Decoded, a book that focuses on facial coding, to speak on the value and balance of logic and emotions in all aspects of our lives.

When it comes to both our personal and professional lives, understanding logic and emotions and their delicate balance is important, if not essential. In this episode, Dan and Marisa dive into the different emotions and attachment styles, and discuss how understanding our own responses can help us become better employees, better leaders, and ultimately, better people.

Highlights From The Episode:

[2:10] “[Emotions] are who we are, how we’re managed, how we work together as a team, if we believe in management and if can root for them or felt very distant from them… it applies to advertising and how we use products… One of my favorite quotes is this: ‘In America, there are two currencies: dollars and emotions.”

[3:45] “Emotions are just a really broad and important subject, and facial coding is a way for me to able to pick up the emotions of others. In business… [it] helps quantify those emotional responses as providing insights and [a] feedback loop that’s more honest than what people say often.”

[4:25] “How we learn, how we manage, and how we can manage others, and how others like to be manged…it’s really fascinating.”

[5:10] “If you’re really going to take on people and respect them, then you have to bring emotions into it.”

[6:10] “When you have senses and logic put together, it’s [asking] how can we use both sides of our brain left and right, how can we use both our emotions and logical reasoning to really build what we’re trying to build, whatever that is?”

[6:45] “We are mostly feeling beings… ‘I feel therefore I am.'”

[8:00] “I feel that vulnerability, in particular—which comes through when we are emotional and we do express our feelings—I feel like that gives us power, which is actually the reason I started this podcast in the first place.”

[8:30] “[Fear] is part of the human condition. Vulnerability is just getting to authenticity. Authenticity matters immensely.”

[9:15] “[When we] camouflage how we’re feeling, [it] hides our volability, and hides our ability to make a connection, and it hides our ability to understand our situation better, and ourselves, and essentially to move forward.”

[9:50] “If you’re not willing to meet people on an emotional level, or share any semblance of real emotion or even mistakes… that [vulnerability] is what, in my opinion, separates an okay leader with an excellent leader.”

[17:55] “Someone who is anxiously attached is probably trying to assess every time, ‘Is this now a moment where I can approach this person?’… ‘Am I going to get passed over?’ … ‘Which one is it going to be now?'”

[18:30] “I don’t want to say that fear is always a negative emotion. I think it’s a chance for us to recognize [that] there’s a challenge out there and [to] take it on, and show some courage, and go someplace.”

[19:25] “Sadness can get a bad rap as an emotion, but I think sadness has tremendous qualities in terms of causing us to reflect, to ponder, to try to understand something. But that said, we don’t’ want to live our lives entirely in sadness, even though it has its beneficial aspects.”

[21:20] “We all have emotions we gravitate to, almost naturally, but at the same time, I think people evolve. So nothing is set in stone. One can live and learn and grow accordingly.”

[23:30] “A lot of times in life we don’t get to be as happy as we want, but the fireworks emotionally in terms of happiness is certainly the true smile.”

[24:05] “Happy people are really good at brainstorming and being inventive. And there’s a lot of value in that.”

[24:25] ‘It’s a giving, generous emotion — happiness is.”

[24:30] “When we have happiness that’s fleeting, it teaches us to really appreciate it. Especially when we get into tough times.”

[26:40] “Emotions couldn’t be more front and center right now, based on world events.”

[27:40] “It’s pretty hard to think about elevating with something as profound [of] a crisis as this, but I think there’s a least some aspects for which it provides some opportunities.”

[28:25] “What’s the human drama? What do we go through in life? And what can we learn from that?”

Recommended Resources:

To learn more about facial coding, logic and emotions, and how to have a deeper understanding of your own feelings, check out Dan’s book, Famous Faces Decoded: A Guidebook for Reading Others.

Combining both emotional and facial intelligence, this book dives into situations + people (with a focus on celebrities) to analyze how and why we react in certain ways. Dan discusses the emotions that we ‘hide’ and how they’re reflected on our faces, as well as how our actions and decisions can impact others. The book also includes over 100 illustrations and is filled with celebrity stories, quizzes, and fun.

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