“Everything you’ve ever wanted is on the other side of fear.”

This is the message of the latest VulnerABILITY Podcast, Episode 19, where host Marisa Donnelly talks about her business journey and struggles along the way. Each and every one of us face fear in some capacity. And if it’s not fear that gets in the way, there’s some sort of roadblock. Whether it’s a relationship and a nervousness surrounding confrontation, or a career and the unwillingness to face the unknown, things stand in our way all the time. It’s not about what those things are, but how we overcome them.

In this podcast episode, Marisa talks about all the fear she had before launching her business. She talks about the things that stood in her way and relates back to Episode 11, where the focus was to take one tiny step. She acknowledges how powerful it is to take steps, but gets real about how difficult that process is, and how much time and strength it takes.

“There is no such thing as complete fearlessness,” she says, “We aren’t fearless people, but we can do things without fear.”

In the end, Marisa leaves us with some strong takeaways. She touches on a conversation with a client where she asked this person, simply, ‘What is the goal? What do you want more than anything?’ If that goal asks you to fight against fear—that’s what you have to do.

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She says, “You say to yourself ‘Yes I’m afraid, yes this is going on, yes I’m overwhelmed, and yes there are a thousand things on my to-do list. But I’m going to put aside all of that stuff aside and focus on that end goal.’ And if that end goal is important to you, then that’s what you’ll do.”